The audio from this week’s Baptist Identity Conference is now available FREE for download. To download the audio, click here.
Also, I will try to do three things in reflection:
1. Post about 30 more photos
2. Provide my personal reflections on the messages and conference as a whole
3. Make a summary post of all my summaries as well as others
It was a wonderful time this weekend. In all, there were 19 SBC bloggers there, many whom I met for the first time. In addition, I had the opportunity to meet many professors from UU as well as the kinds folks who have read my blog in the past. Everyone was very encouraging, and I am grateful for being a part of this conference. I will share more in the days to come. In the meantime, check out the audio, especially Ed Stetzer’s, Timothy George’s, and Greg Thornbury’s messages. Their messages were excellent.
Timmy:
I stole one of your pictures for my blog banner. Do you mind?
Like they say, better to ask forgiveness than permission.
I’ll give you 50% of all royalties I make off my blog for the time that your photograph is on the banner. 😉
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Timmy,
Great meeting and talking with you this weekend. You did an incredible job of summing this up for us. I started taking notes when I was there, but I saw you, Joe, Steve, Art, and Marty blogging and I thought I’d cheat off you guys. Anyway, thanks for all your work on this. What an incredible service.
wondering what your thoughts on shaddix were?
is it just me or is this a prime example of what greg was talking about or the exact opposite of what stetzer was talking about? broad generalizations and narrow-mindedness?
here are some of Shaddix’s quotes:
“The emerging churches and alternative venues are not as appealing to the unchurched as the marginally churched in our camps.”
This is interesting to me. If by ‘in our camps’ he means Baptists, I might agree that in more rural areas, smaller stand-alone metropolitan areas [in MO, Jefferson City, Columbia, Springfield, etc.], and outlying suburbs of large metropolitan areas [in MO, St. Charles Co.], but not in large metro areas like Denver, where Riverside is. This is a guess, but I’m sure there is a plethora of emerging churches in metro Denver attended by disenfranchised Baptists [among others] and primarily under the age of 35. Where is Shaddix’s context?
“Did you know that the organ is played more in a professional baseball game than in our churches today?”
Eh? I’m getting tired of folks exalting a cultural expression of the 50’s & 60’s as THE way worship should be done. In a way, it an elitist view. Those that do start down the road have to answer the question: How far back do we go? Why stop at organs?
“Have you noticed that our young people listen to David Letterman and Jay Leno who wear suits and ties?”
This is more of a slam on seeker churches [and rightfully so] than on most of the emerging churches I know, especially in the Acts 29 network. Broad generalization…
“Postmodernism and its child, the emerging church, is faddish.”
Wow. Postmodernism isn’t a fad it is an age. And though we may be in its, as Robert Webber says, its ‘first breath,’ it is a legitimate era. How can the age after modernism be called a fad when it is reality?
“The more recent the movement and mindset, the shorter it will be, the shorter the shelf life.”
Then how have any movements sustained? Weren’t all movements ’short’ at one point before they grew to a more sustained movement? Again, I am growing tired of what comes off as an elitist viewpoint about ‘movements’ from those who seem to have a narrow viewpoint…
“Every church grabbing towards the latest trend and fad are looking for methodolody, not theology.”
Eh? What a horrible generalization? Has this guy heard Driscoll?
Curious about your thoughts timmy
Hey Brother,
Hope I”m right on this one but tell Dusti H Bday. Sorry it was late.
Michael and Teresa
Ben,
Feel free to use the photo. When I visualized that picture, I could not help but snap a few. I figured you would like it.
Alan,
It was really great meeting you man. I appreciate your heart and love for the Lord and His Church. I hope to keep in touch!
Brad,
I concur with what others had been saying (such as Steve on his blog). I believe Dr. Shaddix’s biggest flaw was a big assumption made in his premise. He believes with certainty that those who leave the traditional church will come back. That is because it is not what they are going to but what they are leaving from. He believes there is little if anything the “non-traditional” churches has to offer that will sustain the interest of the younger generation. If that premise can be disproved, then the rest of his message seems to me to be irrelevant. I am not postmodern or emerging, but I have read and tried to keep up with the conversation and underpinnings to a very broad and hard to define movement. I think Dr. Shaddix made some sweeping statements that were oversimplifications and generalizations regarding the “non-traditional church,” though he made it a point to say that his message was on the traditional church. Furthermore, I think there are reasons unmentioned (such as a desire for authentic community and a healthy orthopraxy) that were not addressed that appeal to this younger generation where they find elsewhere than the traditional church. In any case, I think Dr. Shaddix did make some good points, though I fear that the certainty of his assumption may eclipse them in the end.
I must say, my notes were only a brief summary of what he said in his message. To get a more full and complete understanding of Dr. Shaddix’s message, I encourage you to download it and listen for yourself. You can get it here:
http://www.uu.edu/audio/baptistidentity/2007/JimShaddix-021607.mp3
Michael,
I will be sure to tell her. You are correct, today is her birthday. God bless you brother, and be sure to tell Teresa, Garrett, and Corabeth we said hello.
As I have had a chance to do a quick review of my published notes, I realize that there are many typos and ways in which I could have worded things in a better way. I was working hard to try to stay as faithful to the speaker as possible, including as much of the message in the notes. With little time to proofread and edit, you are getting a rougher version than I would like to post. In any case, I wanted to make it available ASAP. I will try to made editorial corrections soon. I apologize for any misunderstanding or confusion which might arise from my summaries.